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	<title>Comments on: Why pick on sociology?</title>
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		<title>By: Charles W. Abbott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles W. Abbott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry I haven&#039;t read your works you mentioned.  I&#039;ll see if I can read them before making any further comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry I haven&#8217;t read your works you mentioned.  I&#8217;ll see if I can read them before making any further comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles W. Abbott</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/why-pick-on-sociology/#comment-475822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles W. Abbott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prof. Kling, 

Thank you for suggesting this thread.  It was I who suggested this question as suitable for further exploration.  

&quot;Informal authority&quot; is very far from what I would have suggested Sociology specialized in.  Probably I would have said either &quot;the description of modern western, industrial societies,&quot; or &quot;the study of  modern societies more particularly in terms of categorizing individuals and groups into classes, strata, ranks, and occupational groups, and with a focus (at least partially) on modern bureaucracy and formal record keeping by organizations.  

In that sense, Anthropology seems more interested in the &quot;informal&quot; than Sociology does, to the extent that they are both studying the same situation.  

Sociology tends to study formal bureaucracy, with a preference for written records.  

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As I recall, the triumvirate of founders of Sociology are 

Marx
Weber
Durkheim.  

So I have seen it enumerated--but where?  not sure.  

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An aphorism pops into my head, unbidden: 

&quot;Economics studies how people make make choices, and 
Sociology studies how people don&#039;t have any choices to make. &quot; 

Obviously if Economists study choice and Sociologists think people don&#039;t have much choice, the practitioners of the two disciplines are going to have trouble seeing eye to eye or understanding each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof. Kling, </p>
<p>Thank you for suggesting this thread.  It was I who suggested this question as suitable for further exploration.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Informal authority&#8221; is very far from what I would have suggested Sociology specialized in.  Probably I would have said either &#8220;the description of modern western, industrial societies,&#8221; or &#8220;the study of  modern societies more particularly in terms of categorizing individuals and groups into classes, strata, ranks, and occupational groups, and with a focus (at least partially) on modern bureaucracy and formal record keeping by organizations.  </p>
<p>In that sense, Anthropology seems more interested in the &#8220;informal&#8221; than Sociology does, to the extent that they are both studying the same situation.  </p>
<p>Sociology tends to study formal bureaucracy, with a preference for written records.  </p>
<p>  = &#8211; = &#8211; = &#8211; = </p>
<p>As I recall, the triumvirate of founders of Sociology are </p>
<p>Marx<br />
Weber<br />
Durkheim.  </p>
<p>So I have seen it enumerated&#8211;but where?  not sure.  </p>
<p>= &#8211; = &#8211; = &#8211; =  =</p>
<p>An aphorism pops into my head, unbidden: </p>
<p>&#8220;Economics studies how people make make choices, and<br />
Sociology studies how people don&#8217;t have any choices to make. &#8221; </p>
<p>Obviously if Economists study choice and Sociologists think people don&#8217;t have much choice, the practitioners of the two disciplines are going to have trouble seeing eye to eye or understanding each other.</p>
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		<title>By: R Richard Schweitzer</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/why-pick-on-sociology/#comment-475808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Richard Schweitzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For more:

http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/

Today 10/9/2017 (Monday)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more:</p>
<p><a href="http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Today 10/9/2017 (Monday)</p>
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		<title>By: R Richard Schweitzer</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/why-pick-on-sociology/#comment-475807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Richard Schweitzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 2017 was awarded to Richard H. Thaler &quot;for his contributions to behavioural economics&quot;.

That makes two in a row,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 2017 was awarded to Richard H. Thaler &#8220;for his contributions to behavioural economics&#8221;.</p>
<p>That makes two in a row,</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Sweeny</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/why-pick-on-sociology/#comment-475801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Sweeny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 15:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was an undergraduate, some of us interested in economics would say,

&quot;Sociology is about what people say they value;
economics is about what people show they value.&quot;

I did read too many sociology articles that relied on &quot;surveys&quot;: asking people questions in a fairly unsophisticated way and then drawing strong conclusions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was an undergraduate, some of us interested in economics would say,</p>
<p>&#8220;Sociology is about what people say they value;<br />
economics is about what people show they value.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did read too many sociology articles that relied on &#8220;surveys&#8221;: asking people questions in a fairly unsophisticated way and then drawing strong conclusions.</p>
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