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		<title>By: Georg Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georg Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link.  So much for that idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  So much for that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Georg Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georg Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adrian,

Thank you for your thoughts. I hope the two links below are helpful in explaining the points I wish to stress.

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2015/09/a-common-errors-in-political-thought-the-fact-that-one-does-not-like-politics-the-fact-that-one-is-dismayed-by-this-or-tha.html

and

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2015/09/immigration-and-freedom-510-caplans-libertarian-case-for-open-borders.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian,</p>
<p>Thank you for your thoughts. I hope the two links below are helpful in explaining the points I wish to stress.</p>
<p><a href="http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2015/09/a-common-errors-in-political-thought-the-fact-that-one-does-not-like-politics-the-fact-that-one-is-dismayed-by-this-or-tha.html" rel="nofollow">http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2015/09/a-common-errors-in-political-thought-the-fact-that-one-does-not-like-politics-the-fact-that-one-is-dismayed-by-this-or-tha.html</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2015/09/immigration-and-freedom-510-caplans-libertarian-case-for-open-borders.html" rel="nofollow">http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2015/09/immigration-and-freedom-510-caplans-libertarian-case-for-open-borders.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Georg Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460734</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georg Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/demography-does-not-explain-the-migration-crisis.aspx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/demography-does-not-explain-the-migration-crisis.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/demography-does-not-explain-the-migration-crisis.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew'</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, let&#039;s say it is a humanitarian disaster. What makes it any particular country&#039;s duty to provide aid over any other?

Not counting anything they might have done to destabilize regimes, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, let&#8217;s say it is a humanitarian disaster. What makes it any particular country&#8217;s duty to provide aid over any other?</p>
<p>Not counting anything they might have done to destabilize regimes, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Ratnapala</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian Ratnapala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2015 05:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Georg, societies can and do vary in how much they allow politics to regulate individual decisions.  Particular societies vary along this axis over time, and across domains.  The most successful societies on earth have a tradition called &quot;limited government&quot;.

Given all that, how is it so very unreasonable for people who think that government is going too far to speak their mind about particular cases?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georg, societies can and do vary in how much they allow politics to regulate individual decisions.  Particular societies vary along this axis over time, and across domains.  The most successful societies on earth have a tradition called &#8220;limited government&#8221;.</p>
<p>Given all that, how is it so very unreasonable for people who think that government is going too far to speak their mind about particular cases?</p>
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		<title>By: Another Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2015 00:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it worth thinking of migration as a simple flow from high pressure to low pressure?  European birth rates are low so low pressure.  North African birth rates are high and death rates are dropping so high pressure. 

Takes the politics out of it. 
Makes the &quot;solution&quot; more obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it worth thinking of migration as a simple flow from high pressure to low pressure?  European birth rates are low so low pressure.  North African birth rates are high and death rates are dropping so high pressure. </p>
<p>Takes the politics out of it.<br />
Makes the &#8220;solution&#8221; more obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2015 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My impression from here in Sweden is that the current government (Social Democrats and Greens, but supported by every party on the political spectrum except one) and media have asserted the current situation is a humanitarian disaster, so let everyone in, and laws and consultation be damned.

In the larger scheme and somewhat oddly, it seems a considerable part of the flow is just transiting Stockholm and heading for Finland. Not sure what&#039;s going on there, but I guess it&#039;s Finland&#039;s turn to be broken. No hard numbers on this, just some repeated TV color.

The big push began roughly with that evil picture of the dead kid in Turkey. After that, it&#039;s been a comfortable hysteria of holiness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My impression from here in Sweden is that the current government (Social Democrats and Greens, but supported by every party on the political spectrum except one) and media have asserted the current situation is a humanitarian disaster, so let everyone in, and laws and consultation be damned.</p>
<p>In the larger scheme and somewhat oddly, it seems a considerable part of the flow is just transiting Stockholm and heading for Finland. Not sure what&#8217;s going on there, but I guess it&#8217;s Finland&#8217;s turn to be broken. No hard numbers on this, just some repeated TV color.</p>
<p>The big push began roughly with that evil picture of the dead kid in Turkey. After that, it&#8217;s been a comfortable hysteria of holiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Handle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2015 16:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right, because it&#039;s intellectually practically impossible to distinguish between defense spending on the one hand and immigration policies on the other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, because it&#8217;s intellectually practically impossible to distinguish between defense spending on the one hand and immigration policies on the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Georg Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/three-axes-of-refugees/#comment-460721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georg Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2015 14:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have made the following remarks in my above comments relating to Caplan&#039;s ideas concerning immigration:

&quot;Caplan who favours open borders prima facie, eventually goes on to qualify his initial demand for open borders with any number of ad hoc provisos which create a multi-class society that can only be enforced by the state.&quot;

And:

&quot;Says Caplan, for those of you who do not believe me or in case problems do occur, there are tons of ways to come up with special laws and provisions for ad hoc tweaking here and there by the government.&quot;

Form your own opinion about it: 

Caplan writes in his conclusion of a paper on immigration (see link below):

&quot;Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American workers. Most Americans benefit from immigration, and the losers don’t lose much. Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American taxpayers. Researchers disagree about whether the fiscal effects of immigration are positive or negative, but they agree that the fiscal effects are small. Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American culture. Immigrants make our culture better—and their children learn fluent English. Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American liberty.

Immigrants have low voter turnout and accept our political status quo by default. By increasing diversity, they undermine native support for the welfare state. And on one important issue—immigration itself—immigrants are much more pro-liberty than natives.

Even if all these empirical claims are wrong, though, immigration restrictions would remain morally impermissible. Why? Because there are cheaper and more humane solutions for each and every complaint. 

If immigrants hurt American workers, we can charge immigrants higher taxes or admission fees, and use the revenue to compensate the losers. If immigrants burden American taxpayers, we can make immigrants ineligible for benefits. If immigrants hurt American culture, we can impose tests of English fluency and cultural literacy. If immigrants hurt American liberty, we can refuse to give them the right to vote. Whatever your complaint happens to be, immigration restrictions are a needlessly draconian remedy.&quot;

The source: http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/pdfs/whyimmigration.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made the following remarks in my above comments relating to Caplan&#8217;s ideas concerning immigration:</p>
<p>&#8220;Caplan who favours open borders prima facie, eventually goes on to qualify his initial demand for open borders with any number of ad hoc provisos which create a multi-class society that can only be enforced by the state.&#8221;</p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>&#8220;Says Caplan, for those of you who do not believe me or in case problems do occur, there are tons of ways to come up with special laws and provisions for ad hoc tweaking here and there by the government.&#8221;</p>
<p>Form your own opinion about it: </p>
<p>Caplan writes in his conclusion of a paper on immigration (see link below):</p>
<p>&#8220;Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American workers. Most Americans benefit from immigration, and the losers don’t lose much. Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American taxpayers. Researchers disagree about whether the fiscal effects of immigration are positive or negative, but they agree that the fiscal effects are small. Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American culture. Immigrants make our culture better—and their children learn fluent English. Immigration restrictions are not necessary to protect American liberty.</p>
<p>Immigrants have low voter turnout and accept our political status quo by default. By increasing diversity, they undermine native support for the welfare state. And on one important issue—immigration itself—immigrants are much more pro-liberty than natives.</p>
<p>Even if all these empirical claims are wrong, though, immigration restrictions would remain morally impermissible. Why? Because there are cheaper and more humane solutions for each and every complaint. </p>
<p>If immigrants hurt American workers, we can charge immigrants higher taxes or admission fees, and use the revenue to compensate the losers. If immigrants burden American taxpayers, we can make immigrants ineligible for benefits. If immigrants hurt American culture, we can impose tests of English fluency and cultural literacy. If immigrants hurt American liberty, we can refuse to give them the right to vote. Whatever your complaint happens to be, immigration restrictions are a needlessly draconian remedy.&#8221;</p>
<p>The source: <a href="http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/pdfs/whyimmigration.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/pdfs/whyimmigration.pdf</a></p>
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