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	<title>Comments on: The Book of Arnold on the Economics Profession</title>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-book-of-arnold-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-460680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ricardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 19:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this and will be buying the Book of Arnold when it becomes available.

Climate change strikes me as another candidate for your category of &quot;not science.&quot;  There are science-y things about it, like measuring temperatures and looking at carbon densities.  But when confronted with anomalies, the model-builders (it seems to me) modify their models to incorporate the anomalies without changing the final prediction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this and will be buying the Book of Arnold when it becomes available.</p>
<p>Climate change strikes me as another candidate for your category of &#8220;not science.&#8221;  There are science-y things about it, like measuring temperatures and looking at carbon densities.  But when confronted with anomalies, the model-builders (it seems to me) modify their models to incorporate the anomalies without changing the final prediction.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will people who enthuse over your debunking efforts still back them when you point out this also applies to the socialist calculation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will people who enthuse over your debunking efforts still back them when you point out this also applies to the socialist calculation?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew'</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-book-of-arnold-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-460654</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 08:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If a study suggests that women earn less than men, even when controlling for years of education and other indicators of human capital,&quot;

Why are there even studies to show this (we know why of course)? Such studies are bass ackwards. The studies should all be focused on what effects should be controlled for. If you still didn&#039;t find parity all that means us you are missing an effect  or that your bins are not labeled correctly (&quot;males&quot; and &quot;females&quot; are not homogeneous).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a study suggests that women earn less than men, even when controlling for years of education and other indicators of human capital,&#8221;</p>
<p>Why are there even studies to show this (we know why of course)? Such studies are bass ackwards. The studies should all be focused on what effects should be controlled for. If you still didn&#8217;t find parity all that means us you are missing an effect  or that your bins are not labeled correctly (&#8220;males&#8221; and &#8220;females&#8221; are not homogeneous).</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-book-of-arnold-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-460653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lord]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Theories usually have sufficient degrees of freedom to adapt to new findings, but that they need to adapt is evidence they are falsifiable, when they fail to adapt that they are likely false, and when they never adapt they likely aren&#039;t science at all, but this is all relative.  Simple models are generally easily refuted, complex ones with much more difficulty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theories usually have sufficient degrees of freedom to adapt to new findings, but that they need to adapt is evidence they are falsifiable, when they fail to adapt that they are likely false, and when they never adapt they likely aren&#8217;t science at all, but this is all relative.  Simple models are generally easily refuted, complex ones with much more difficulty.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew'</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 23:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or more simply, markets fail. No duh. Democracy is at best just a more flawed market. No duh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or more simply, markets fail. No duh. Democracy is at best just a more flawed market. No duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew'</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 23:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As in the liberal-biased academia is really stupid. They continue to focus on market failure. It wad libertarians who point out that government failure is far more fundamental, but it is really just common sense available to anyone who isn&#039;t hopelessly biased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in the liberal-biased academia is really stupid. They continue to focus on market failure. It wad libertarians who point out that government failure is far more fundamental, but it is really just common sense available to anyone who isn&#8217;t hopelessly biased.</p>
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		<title>By: Georg Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-book-of-arnold-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-460650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georg Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have difficulties grasping your logic. Consulting the Urban Dictionary, I understand the term &quot;duh&quot; is &quot;a word people use when the obvious is stated.&quot; 

In the first sentence you contrast &quot;libertarian&quot; and &quot;duh&quot;, only to explain in the second sentence that it is the specifically &quot;libertarian part&quot; to complain/declare &quot;duh&quot; with respect to Public Choice, i.e. protesting its obviousness.

If Public Choice is not &quot;libertarian,&quot; how can it be pronounced &quot;duh&quot; by libertarians?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have difficulties grasping your logic. Consulting the Urban Dictionary, I understand the term &#8220;duh&#8221; is &#8220;a word people use when the obvious is stated.&#8221; </p>
<p>In the first sentence you contrast &#8220;libertarian&#8221; and &#8220;duh&#8221;, only to explain in the second sentence that it is the specifically &#8220;libertarian part&#8221; to complain/declare &#8220;duh&#8221; with respect to Public Choice, i.e. protesting its obviousness.</p>
<p>If Public Choice is not &#8220;libertarian,&#8221; how can it be pronounced &#8220;duh&#8221; by libertarians?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew'</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Public choice, for example, is not &quot;libertarian.&quot; It is more &quot;duh.&quot; The libertarian part comes in when asking why something so obvious would be ignored and denied for so long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public choice, for example, is not &#8220;libertarian.&#8221; It is more &#8220;duh.&#8221; The libertarian part comes in when asking why something so obvious would be ignored and denied for so long.</p>
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		<title>By: Georg Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georg Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Writes Arnold, 

&quot;In natural science, there are relatively many falsifiable propositions and relatively few attractive interpretive frameworks. In the social sciences, there are relatively many attractive interpretive frameworks and relatively few falsifiable propositions.&quot;

This and the entire post is absolutely brilliant.

However, I fail to see a coherent application of Arnold&#039;s social-scientific agnosticism in his writing in so far as he maintains, it appears to me, a rather rigid or conventional commitment toward libertarian preconceptions or preferences for selective perception (e.g. a penchant for the public choice perspective, which is at best a segment in a far larger agnostic spectrum). 

Another implication of his agnosticism would seem to strongly suggest that politics, a politicised society should be regarded a normal condition, rather than a wicked outgrowth of leftist activism/preponderance and/or the result of dissenters being social-scientifically less educated than the likes of him are.

On reading brilliant scholars (recent reads of mine, which is why I mention them specifically) like Geoffrey Hodgson 

http://www.geoffrey-hodgson.info/webnotes.htm

or Warren Samuels, I never cease to be taken aback by the utter crudeness of the leftist arguments they revert to when it comes to run-of-the-mill political issues - there is a complete disconnect between the sophistication of their minds and the triteness of their political affiliation, as if one did not have anything to do with the other.

Excuse my being rather cheeky here, but dare I say, I seem to detect a certain political stubbornness, an ideological inertia in Arnold that does not always square with his own writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writes Arnold, </p>
<p>&#8220;In natural science, there are relatively many falsifiable propositions and relatively few attractive interpretive frameworks. In the social sciences, there are relatively many attractive interpretive frameworks and relatively few falsifiable propositions.&#8221;</p>
<p>This and the entire post is absolutely brilliant.</p>
<p>However, I fail to see a coherent application of Arnold&#8217;s social-scientific agnosticism in his writing in so far as he maintains, it appears to me, a rather rigid or conventional commitment toward libertarian preconceptions or preferences for selective perception (e.g. a penchant for the public choice perspective, which is at best a segment in a far larger agnostic spectrum). </p>
<p>Another implication of his agnosticism would seem to strongly suggest that politics, a politicised society should be regarded a normal condition, rather than a wicked outgrowth of leftist activism/preponderance and/or the result of dissenters being social-scientifically less educated than the likes of him are.</p>
<p>On reading brilliant scholars (recent reads of mine, which is why I mention them specifically) like Geoffrey Hodgson </p>
<p><a href="http://www.geoffrey-hodgson.info/webnotes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.geoffrey-hodgson.info/webnotes.htm</a></p>
<p>or Warren Samuels, I never cease to be taken aback by the utter crudeness of the leftist arguments they revert to when it comes to run-of-the-mill political issues &#8211; there is a complete disconnect between the sophistication of their minds and the triteness of their political affiliation, as if one did not have anything to do with the other.</p>
<p>Excuse my being rather cheeky here, but dare I say, I seem to detect a certain political stubbornness, an ideological inertia in Arnold that does not always square with his own writing.</p>
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