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		<title>By: another bob</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/some-useful-cosmides-tooby-links/#comment-468517</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2016 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is such a cool book.  Thanks for the link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is such a cool book.  Thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not suggesting it as a model to follow, only as a reflection of human nature to consider.  And, indeed, the Bushman clans didn&#039;t want to prevent the best hunters from continuing to bring in the most game or even prevent them from getting credit for it (everybody knows who did what) -- they merely wanted to tamp down the displays of pride and feelings of envy.  This is something, BTW, that modern society isn&#039;t very good at (or we wouldn&#039;t have so many people banging on about the &#039;horrors&#039; of inequality despite absolute wealth that is several orders of magnitude above that of the Bushmen).

As for redistribution -- if you live in a tropical hunter-gatherer society with no refrigeration, you pretty much have to redistribute meat or it will spoil.  However, with improvements in methods of drying meat as well as the possibility of selling it for cash, apparently the communal sharing of meat has been dying out:

https://goo.gl/BElP6Z]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting it as a model to follow, only as a reflection of human nature to consider.  And, indeed, the Bushman clans didn&#8217;t want to prevent the best hunters from continuing to bring in the most game or even prevent them from getting credit for it (everybody knows who did what) &#8212; they merely wanted to tamp down the displays of pride and feelings of envy.  This is something, BTW, that modern society isn&#8217;t very good at (or we wouldn&#8217;t have so many people banging on about the &#8216;horrors&#8217; of inequality despite absolute wealth that is several orders of magnitude above that of the Bushmen).</p>
<p>As for redistribution &#8212; if you live in a tropical hunter-gatherer society with no refrigeration, you pretty much have to redistribute meat or it will spoil.  However, with improvements in methods of drying meat as well as the possibility of selling it for cash, apparently the communal sharing of meat has been dying out:</p>
<p><a href="https://goo.gl/BElP6Z" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/BElP6Z</a></p>
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		<title>By: another bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 17:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the kind of incentive system that has made the Bushmen society the economic powerhouse it is today.

What we need is more harping on &#039;inequality&#039; and more separating people from the fruits of their labor, and, more redistribution based on obtuse social cues, to attain the same superlative living standard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the kind of incentive system that has made the Bushmen society the economic powerhouse it is today.</p>
<p>What we need is more harping on &#8216;inequality&#8217; and more separating people from the fruits of their labor, and, more redistribution based on obtuse social cues, to attain the same superlative living standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might also be interested in Christopher Boehm&#039;s work.  I was reminded of &lt;i&gt;Hierarchy in the Forest&lt;/i&gt;, but it&#039;s a just old enough not to be searchable online.  Here&#039;s a similar excerpt from his newer book (which I&#039;ve not read) called &lt;i&gt;Moral Origins: The Evolution of Virtue, Altruism, and Shame&lt;/i&gt;.   Anyway, the issue is that unlike foraging, hunting success depends not only on luck and effort but also on strength and talent, and this may pose a risk to group harmony.  Here&#039;s a description of one way of handling that:

&lt;i&gt;Or as a renowned healer named Tomazho says, &quot;When a young man kills much meat, he comes to think of himself as a chief or a big man, and he thinks of the rest of us as his servants or inferiors. We can&#039;t accept this. We refuse one who boasts, for someday his pride will make him kill somebody. So we always speak of his meat as worthless. In this way we cool his heart and make him gentle.&quot;  Thus, even though (he successful hunter&#039;s chest may be quietly swelling with pride, he&#039;ll shape his words very humbly, and his egalitarian peers, all too ready to put him down with ridicule, will approve his self-effacement and respect him both as a hunter and as a person of humility.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Cutting proud hunters down to size verbally isn&#039;t the end of it, for usually Bushmen don&#039;t even get to distribute the meat they&#039;ve hunted. Once the carcass is hauled into camp, by custom someone else will probably preside over the meat and share it out to the main kin groups in the band—who&#039;ll then share it further with their close kin and other associates. The effect is to remove the hunter from the meat he has killed as a possible ticket to power, and the Bushmen understand this situation all too well.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might also be interested in Christopher Boehm&#8217;s work.  I was reminded of <i>Hierarchy in the Forest</i>, but it&#8217;s a just old enough not to be searchable online.  Here&#8217;s a similar excerpt from his newer book (which I&#8217;ve not read) called <i>Moral Origins: The Evolution of Virtue, Altruism, and Shame</i>.   Anyway, the issue is that unlike foraging, hunting success depends not only on luck and effort but also on strength and talent, and this may pose a risk to group harmony.  Here&#8217;s a description of one way of handling that:</p>
<p><i>Or as a renowned healer named Tomazho says, &#8220;When a young man kills much meat, he comes to think of himself as a chief or a big man, and he thinks of the rest of us as his servants or inferiors. We can&#8217;t accept this. We refuse one who boasts, for someday his pride will make him kill somebody. So we always speak of his meat as worthless. In this way we cool his heart and make him gentle.&#8221;  Thus, even though (he successful hunter&#8217;s chest may be quietly swelling with pride, he&#8217;ll shape his words very humbly, and his egalitarian peers, all too ready to put him down with ridicule, will approve his self-effacement and respect him both as a hunter and as a person of humility.</i></p>
<p><i>Cutting proud hunters down to size verbally isn&#8217;t the end of it, for usually Bushmen don&#8217;t even get to distribute the meat they&#8217;ve hunted. Once the carcass is hauled into camp, by custom someone else will probably preside over the meat and share it out to the main kin groups in the band—who&#8217;ll then share it further with their close kin and other associates. The effect is to remove the hunter from the meat he has killed as a possible ticket to power, and the Bushmen understand this situation all too well.</i></p>
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