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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider sites like thesweethome.com – there&#039;s quite a few of them now and it&#039;s something I&#039;ve wanted for a long time. When I&#039;m looking to purchase something, I want to know what&#039;s the best and I&#039;m willing to trust a self-described expert if they provide sufficient evidence that they do in-fact possess sufficient expertise.

These sites are providing evidence that&#039;s nearly as strong as randomized controlled trials, or the analogous type of experiment for non-clinical studies. And the fact that there are multiple such sites effectively competing with each other should improve the info they provide overall.

There&#039;s almost certainly alternative means of financing and administering rational investigation of nearly any topic, other than FDA-style models. Just look at the kosher-food &#039;regulatory agencies&#039; – it&#039;s definitely different, but not obviously worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider sites like thesweethome.com – there&#8217;s quite a few of them now and it&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve wanted for a long time. When I&#8217;m looking to purchase something, I want to know what&#8217;s the best and I&#8217;m willing to trust a self-described expert if they provide sufficient evidence that they do in-fact possess sufficient expertise.</p>
<p>These sites are providing evidence that&#8217;s nearly as strong as randomized controlled trials, or the analogous type of experiment for non-clinical studies. And the fact that there are multiple such sites effectively competing with each other should improve the info they provide overall.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s almost certainly alternative means of financing and administering rational investigation of nearly any topic, other than FDA-style models. Just look at the kosher-food &#8216;regulatory agencies&#8217; – it&#8217;s definitely different, but not obviously worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben K</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2014 01:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It seems like it would be difficult to aggregate anecdotal reports about their effects into something that resembles controlled studies about effectiveness&quot;

You are right, at least about the &#039;controlled studies&#039; part, but for what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;ll leave this here: www.erowid.org fits your description to some extent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems like it would be difficult to aggregate anecdotal reports about their effects into something that resembles controlled studies about effectiveness&#8221;</p>
<p>You are right, at least about the &#8216;controlled studies&#8217; part, but for what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ll leave this here: <a href="http://www.erowid.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.erowid.org</a> fits your description to some extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximum Liberty</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximum Liberty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John W:
 
Interesting that I read that comment differently. I thought he meant that the FDA could accept applications from expert organizations to review drugs and license the FDA&#039;s trademark of approval to the approved organizations. Your reading makes more sense of the actual comment, though.
 
Max L.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John W:</p>
<p>Interesting that I read that comment differently. I thought he meant that the FDA could accept applications from expert organizations to review drugs and license the FDA&#8217;s trademark of approval to the approved organizations. Your reading makes more sense of the actual comment, though.</p>
<p>Max L.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew'</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448725</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I worked for a company that did its own safety testing on the product.  The testing we did was far superior to what competitors did. What competitors did was what the government used. My company lobbied to install our testing but the competitors lobbied against it. I suspect that since our quality reputation partly based on our superior testing was a competitive advantage is why we didn&#039;t lobby harder. But I&#039;m not sure about that last part, but sure enough for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for a company that did its own safety testing on the product.  The testing we did was far superior to what competitors did. What competitors did was what the government used. My company lobbied to install our testing but the competitors lobbied against it. I suspect that since our quality reputation partly based on our superior testing was a competitive advantage is why we didn&#8217;t lobby harder. But I&#8217;m not sure about that last part, but sure enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew'</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To put a fine point on it:  how many people died from Vioxx because we didn&#039;t acknowledge we already have a Rotten Tomatoes system and improve it rather than having its sensitivity only be only to detect total disaster?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put a fine point on it:  how many people died from Vioxx because we didn&#8217;t acknowledge we already have a Rotten Tomatoes system and improve it rather than having its sensitivity only be only to detect total disaster?</p>
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		<title>By: andrew'</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is how it started and hiw it continues with the drugs that get pulled.  Both approaches are needed- limited high control followed by broad feedback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how it started and hiw it continues with the drugs that get pulled.  Both approaches are needed- limited high control followed by broad feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 02:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm... So.... you&#039;re saying no one is making use of these guys to evaluate car safety... http://www.iihs.org/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; So&#8230;. you&#8217;re saying no one is making use of these guys to evaluate car safety&#8230; <a href="http://www.iihs.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iihs.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Slocum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right.  Think Underwriter Laboratories or Consumer Reports rather than TripAdvisor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  Think Underwriter Laboratories or Consumer Reports rather than TripAdvisor.</p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Handle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2014 23:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There a big difference between evaluating for taste and quality and evaluating for safety and effectiveness.  Decentralized consumer-review systems are good for the former, but expert regulators are good for the latter.

Consider automobiles.

If you want to know which car has the best style and handling, you can pick up a lot of good information from car and driver, the truth about cars, or various online forums.

If you want those cars - indeed all cars on the market - to reliably save your life and be able to take head-on collisions at high velocity, then the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is a better bet.  One needs the right mix of both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There a big difference between evaluating for taste and quality and evaluating for safety and effectiveness.  Decentralized consumer-review systems are good for the former, but expert regulators are good for the latter.</p>
<p>Consider automobiles.</p>
<p>If you want to know which car has the best style and handling, you can pick up a lot of good information from car and driver, the truth about cars, or various online forums.</p>
<p>If you want those cars &#8211; indeed all cars on the market &#8211; to reliably save your life and be able to take head-on collisions at high velocity, then the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is a better bet.  One needs the right mix of both.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Willman</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/reputation-and-regulation/#comment-448711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Willman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2014 23:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reputational reviews only work when (a) evaluators have a clue (the expert problem) and (b) their evaluations are aligned with both the questioner&#039;s needs and social needs.

Always remember that while one key function of the FDA is to make it safer for you to take meds, another key function is to make safer for *me* when *you* take meds.  Reviewers of a pain med might not care or report that it makes them unfit to drive or prone to outbursts of homicidal behavoir - but the rest of us do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reputational reviews only work when (a) evaluators have a clue (the expert problem) and (b) their evaluations are aligned with both the questioner&#8217;s needs and social needs.</p>
<p>Always remember that while one key function of the FDA is to make it safer for you to take meds, another key function is to make safer for *me* when *you* take meds.  Reviewers of a pain med might not care or report that it makes them unfit to drive or prone to outbursts of homicidal behavoir &#8211; but the rest of us do.</p>
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