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	<description>taking the most charitable view of those who disagree</description>
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		<title>By: Uniters.org Centrist &#38; Moderate Activist Network</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472373</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uniters.org Centrist &#38; Moderate Activist Network]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s every politician. Opportunism and corruption are endemic to every area of the political spectrum - no more in the center than left, right or anywhere else. People vomit these same things all over the world, except if you look at where people stand, centrists here would be on the right or left elsewhere, and yet the same nonsense stereotypes are regurgitated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s every politician. Opportunism and corruption are endemic to every area of the political spectrum &#8211; no more in the center than left, right or anywhere else. People vomit these same things all over the world, except if you look at where people stand, centrists here would be on the right or left elsewhere, and yet the same nonsense stereotypes are regurgitated.</p>
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		<title>By: Uniters.org Centrist &#38; Moderate Activist Network</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uniters.org Centrist &#38; Moderate Activist Network]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t understand what that term means if you think it applies at all to Donald Trump. There is only marginally more support for him among centrists than there is on the left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t understand what that term means if you think it applies at all to Donald Trump. There is only marginally more support for him among centrists than there is on the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieran McCarthy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2017 20:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, hear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Dain</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2017 03:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The impression I get from the comments so far is that we can&#039;t even agree on how to describe what&#039;s happening, much less what to do about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The impression I get from the comments so far is that we can&#8217;t even agree on how to describe what&#8217;s happening, much less what to do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Octavian</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Octavian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2017 01:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re right that it isn&#039;t moderation we should aspire to; odd as it sounds, most people aren&#039;t moderates, they just deviate in different directions.

I&#039;m not sure what the word for it is, but a &#039;more civil discourse&#039; is the goal, I think the means is to focus on the details of policy disagreement and move away from the grand narratives.  People are passionate and hateful about &#039;trickle down economics making the rich richer&#039; or &#039;socialists taking control over the economy&#039;, but if you distill things down to the particular policy or philosophical differences, we arrive at things easier to discuss more dispassionately:whether fiscal policy is necessary to escape a liquidity trap; whether a monopsony exists in manylabor markets; whether the government allocates capital more or less efficiently than markets, etc.

The passion and hatred largely comes with thinking about things in the context of the grand ideological narratives; focusing on the crystalline Philippe technical components is more productive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right that it isn&#8217;t moderation we should aspire to; odd as it sounds, most people aren&#8217;t moderates, they just deviate in different directions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the word for it is, but a &#8216;more civil discourse&#8217; is the goal, I think the means is to focus on the details of policy disagreement and move away from the grand narratives.  People are passionate and hateful about &#8216;trickle down economics making the rich richer&#8217; or &#8216;socialists taking control over the economy&#8217;, but if you distill things down to the particular policy or philosophical differences, we arrive at things easier to discuss more dispassionately:whether fiscal policy is necessary to escape a liquidity trap; whether a monopsony exists in manylabor markets; whether the government allocates capital more or less efficiently than markets, etc.</p>
<p>The passion and hatred largely comes with thinking about things in the context of the grand ideological narratives; focusing on the crystalline Philippe technical components is more productive.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan King</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2017 00:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NYT columnist Tom Friedman has often wished for a &quot;radical centrist.&quot; Be careful what you wish for--he&#039;s got just such a person by the name Donald Trump. The president is a Democrat in disguise, albeit of the conservative, &quot;Jacksonian&quot; variety. He leans right on social issues (mostly to appease his base), but left on economic issues. In other words, he&#039;s the opposite of a Libertarian. He&#039;s already kicked the Freedom Caucus to the curb, and is now doing the same to the so-called &quot;alt-right&quot; (or what I call the &quot;stupid wing of the Republican Party&quot;). He despises political correctness and carries no truck for progressive Democrats.

More centrist than that it is impossible to be. So I dispute the notion that the country is becoming more polarized. Only that Misters Krugman and Cruz are being pushed to the fringe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT columnist Tom Friedman has often wished for a &#8220;radical centrist.&#8221; Be careful what you wish for&#8211;he&#8217;s got just such a person by the name Donald Trump. The president is a Democrat in disguise, albeit of the conservative, &#8220;Jacksonian&#8221; variety. He leans right on social issues (mostly to appease his base), but left on economic issues. In other words, he&#8217;s the opposite of a Libertarian. He&#8217;s already kicked the Freedom Caucus to the curb, and is now doing the same to the so-called &#8220;alt-right&#8221; (or what I call the &#8220;stupid wing of the Republican Party&#8221;). He despises political correctness and carries no truck for progressive Democrats.</p>
<p>More centrist than that it is impossible to be. So I dispute the notion that the country is becoming more polarized. Only that Misters Krugman and Cruz are being pushed to the fringe.</p>
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		<title>By: chedolf</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chedolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 22:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US needs a movement to counter our division into groups that hate each other, but it would be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/some-pro-trump-intellectuals/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;beside the point&lt;/A&gt; to alter current immigration policy, which increases social friction and tribalist politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US needs a movement to counter our division into groups that hate each other, but it would be <a href="http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/some-pro-trump-intellectuals/" rel="nofollow">beside the point</a> to alter current immigration policy, which increases social friction and tribalist politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lord]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is the problem the non moderates, or the moderates though?  There are always fringes and everyone likes to think themselves moderate and the opposition extreme.  Do moderates even exist or is there a bimodal distribution drawn by the extremity of the opposition?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the problem the non moderates, or the moderates though?  There are always fringes and everyone likes to think themselves moderate and the opposition extreme.  Do moderates even exist or is there a bimodal distribution drawn by the extremity of the opposition?</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472330</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Would there be much of an audience for a talk radio program that was moderate?

Would Paul Krugman have the following he does if he were moderate?

Would readers of the WaPo reward it for being even-handed?

Would celebrities bring attention to themselves by being moderate?

Do lots of people use social media to share thoughts that are moderate?&quot;

Japan has talk radio, intellectual hacks, partisan newspapers, clueless celebrities, and social media.  Yet none of those things have impact it the way they have impacted us.

These items can only enhance real problems.  If the problems don&#039;t exist in the first place, there is nothing to enhance.  The moderate desire is to ignore problems or offer token solutions that don&#039;t work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would there be much of an audience for a talk radio program that was moderate?</p>
<p>Would Paul Krugman have the following he does if he were moderate?</p>
<p>Would readers of the WaPo reward it for being even-handed?</p>
<p>Would celebrities bring attention to themselves by being moderate?</p>
<p>Do lots of people use social media to share thoughts that are moderate?&#8221;</p>
<p>Japan has talk radio, intellectual hacks, partisan newspapers, clueless celebrities, and social media.  Yet none of those things have impact it the way they have impacted us.</p>
<p>These items can only enhance real problems.  If the problems don&#8217;t exist in the first place, there is nothing to enhance.  The moderate desire is to ignore problems or offer token solutions that don&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Berger</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/moderates-bucking-the-trend/#comment-472329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Berger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moderate is only defined with respect to those with ideological positions.  The moderates wet their thumbs and hold them up to determine which way the wind is blowing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderate is only defined with respect to those with ideological positions.  The moderates wet their thumbs and hold them up to determine which way the wind is blowing.</p>
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