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	<title>Comments on: Matthew Yglesias vs. Murray Edelman</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/matthew-yglesias-vs-murray-edelman/#comment-88299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 00:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe in Matt Yglesias&#039; town, most of the rent-seeking has simply moved further into the shadows. That is, thanks to gridlock and polarization in Congress, as well as to the rise of the 4th branch of government--the alphabet soup of federal agencies making up our administrative state--most of the rent-seeking is now aimed at the agency employees who are in charge of developing and implementing regulations. 

For example, the Medicare Modernization Act was signed into law in 2003, but I happen to know CMS was still issuing rules based on its various provisions in 2008 and 2009. Heck, they probably still are. What was going on in that five to six year interregnum? Well, first they had to publish proposed rules for public comment, but what do suppose happened next? Furious lobbying behind the scenes by the various interested parties, I imagine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe in Matt Yglesias&#8217; town, most of the rent-seeking has simply moved further into the shadows. That is, thanks to gridlock and polarization in Congress, as well as to the rise of the 4th branch of government&#8211;the alphabet soup of federal agencies making up our administrative state&#8211;most of the rent-seeking is now aimed at the agency employees who are in charge of developing and implementing regulations. </p>
<p>For example, the Medicare Modernization Act was signed into law in 2003, but I happen to know CMS was still issuing rules based on its various provisions in 2008 and 2009. Heck, they probably still are. What was going on in that five to six year interregnum? Well, first they had to publish proposed rules for public comment, but what do suppose happened next? Furious lobbying behind the scenes by the various interested parties, I imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas DeMeo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas DeMeo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would look at complexity as a primary driver of this. 

Democracy works within the limited bandwidth of public attention, but the government is always expanding in complexity. A single farm bill provision can be worth a billion dollars or more. How can the public be asked to dig in on such issues, when there are thousands of them? For most voters, the symbolism is all we have time for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would look at complexity as a primary driver of this. </p>
<p>Democracy works within the limited bandwidth of public attention, but the government is always expanding in complexity. A single farm bill provision can be worth a billion dollars or more. How can the public be asked to dig in on such issues, when there are thousands of them? For most voters, the symbolism is all we have time for.</p>
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		<title>By: (Not That) Bill O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/matthew-yglesias-vs-murray-edelman/#comment-88209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[(Not That) Bill O'Reilly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I wonder . . . whather [Yglesias] can cite examples that suggest that the insiders are losing their mojo.&quot;

What would such an example even look like through your paradigm, if not Yglesias&#039; purported new normal in which DC is deadlocked (preventing DC insiders from collecting ever more goodies), because of partisan strife that allocates political poer on a hyper-partisan grassroots level? It can&#039;t just be a lot of incumbents losing power; I anticipate you would simply characterize that as one group of insiders being replaced with another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder . . . whather [Yglesias] can cite examples that suggest that the insiders are losing their mojo.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would such an example even look like through your paradigm, if not Yglesias&#8217; purported new normal in which DC is deadlocked (preventing DC insiders from collecting ever more goodies), because of partisan strife that allocates political poer on a hyper-partisan grassroots level? It can&#8217;t just be a lot of incumbents losing power; I anticipate you would simply characterize that as one group of insiders being replaced with another.</p>
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		<title>By: MG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the most incisive posts I have seen recently.  The enlighted elites(to which Iglesias belongs) does not want to see this issue as a struggle along the insider outsider axis, and they prefer to see as a along left, right and center axis.  

This worldview  is particularly appealing to progressives, since they have managed to reframe the discussion on most policy issues still at play so that left-of-center is center (even if only in DC, NYC and the Left Coast). It is also appealing to all in this class because it shields them from having to defend an insider class, of which they are first class citizens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the most incisive posts I have seen recently.  The enlighted elites(to which Iglesias belongs) does not want to see this issue as a struggle along the insider outsider axis, and they prefer to see as a along left, right and center axis.  </p>
<p>This worldview  is particularly appealing to progressives, since they have managed to reframe the discussion on most policy issues still at play so that left-of-center is center (even if only in DC, NYC and the Left Coast). It is also appealing to all in this class because it shields them from having to defend an insider class, of which they are first class citizens.</p>
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