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	<title>Comments on: Donald Trump, Progressive</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 22:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does it make sense to use the phrase &quot;progressive tradition&quot; when the particular position under discussion has not been conserved and, indeed, was abandoned in a strongly bipartisan manner half a century ago?  I don&#039;t think so.  There&#039;s been way too much water under the bridge in the last 90-120 years.

Test - would a self-identifying contemporary progressive use the phrase &#039;the progressive tradition&#039; non-ironically to include these old immigration policies?  I doubt it.  Also, it&#039;s not like all major Libertarian intellectuals have always been in favor of open borders as a matter of principle.  So what&#039;s the Libertarian &#039;tradition&#039; on immigration, exactly?

Using these kinds of continuous coalition labels to either applaud or smear someone based on a few overlaps with those very old positions - which were abandoned by the political inheritors long ago - is at least a little unkosher.

Of course the really funny thing is that prominent pundits have been telling us that Trump is either clearly a &#039;fascist&#039; or - like Douthat has done three times now - almost-but-not-exactly-completely-a-total-fascist and maybe just a &#039;proto-fascist&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it make sense to use the phrase &#8220;progressive tradition&#8221; when the particular position under discussion has not been conserved and, indeed, was abandoned in a strongly bipartisan manner half a century ago?  I don&#8217;t think so.  There&#8217;s been way too much water under the bridge in the last 90-120 years.</p>
<p>Test &#8211; would a self-identifying contemporary progressive use the phrase &#8216;the progressive tradition&#8217; non-ironically to include these old immigration policies?  I doubt it.  Also, it&#8217;s not like all major Libertarian intellectuals have always been in favor of open borders as a matter of principle.  So what&#8217;s the Libertarian &#8216;tradition&#8217; on immigration, exactly?</p>
<p>Using these kinds of continuous coalition labels to either applaud or smear someone based on a few overlaps with those very old positions &#8211; which were abandoned by the political inheritors long ago &#8211; is at least a little unkosher.</p>
<p>Of course the really funny thing is that prominent pundits have been telling us that Trump is either clearly a &#8216;fascist&#8217; or &#8211; like Douthat has done three times now &#8211; almost-but-not-exactly-completely-a-total-fascist and maybe just a &#8216;proto-fascist&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/donald-trump-progressive/#comment-462597</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say it originated in the constitution when it banned the importation of slaves after 1815, but maybe we should call that commerce.  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say it originated in the constitution when it banned the importation of slaves after 1815, but maybe we should call that commerce.  <img src="http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: collin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In terms of the racism of the Progressive this is not news to anybody with any history knowledge.  But when Democrat (and Dixiecrat at that) LBJ signed the Civil Rights Voting Act history broke in half on the issue.  Remember LBJ believe the Democrats would probably lose the South.    

Unfortunately for the Libertarian movement, Trump does not truly belong the true believers but any knowledge of Ron Paul supporters and newsletters shows historical supporters libertarians have believed in Trumpism.  Anyway, how is Rand Paul and Trump position on immigration that much different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of the racism of the Progressive this is not news to anybody with any history knowledge.  But when Democrat (and Dixiecrat at that) LBJ signed the Civil Rights Voting Act history broke in half on the issue.  Remember LBJ believe the Democrats would probably lose the South.    </p>
<p>Unfortunately for the Libertarian movement, Trump does not truly belong the true believers but any knowledge of Ron Paul supporters and newsletters shows historical supporters libertarians have believed in Trumpism.  Anyway, how is Rand Paul and Trump position on immigration that much different.</p>
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		<title>By: TR5749</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By removing his name they hope to fool themselves that they have removed his influence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By removing his name they hope to fool themselves that they have removed his influence.</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wilson is having his name removed from Princeton by 2015 progressives for being a racist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilson is having his name removed from Princeton by 2015 progressives for being a racist.</p>
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